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nbc's rob mott now with the details. >> reporter: good day to you from the michigan state capital where we saw a lot of protesters out here protesting two measures that the house passed today that would bar unions from forcing people to join those unions as a condition of employment. sometime tomorrow governor rick schneider is expected to sign them into law make michigan the 24th right-to-work state in the country, joining a lot of others where the gop has majority in the state legislatures. now, a lot of these workers today were dismayed at the timing of all of this. this is taking place during a lame duck session of the legislature when a new body is being sworn in here, and in a month's time it's going to have a few more democrats than we saw here today, so when i sat down with the governor this afternoon i asked him why not delay this just a little bit longer, let a new body come in and give workers and people around the state of michigan more opportunity to debate this issue. he says it was not going to go away, that it doesn't make any sense to allow this debate to continue, that
nbc's rob mott now with the details. >> reporter: good day to you from the michigan state capital where we saw a lot of protesters out here protesting two measures that the house passed today that would bar unions from forcing people to join those unions as a condition of employment. sometime tomorrow governor rick schneider is expected to sign them into law make michigan the 24th right-to-work state in the country, joining a lot of others where the gop has majority in the state...
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not just in michigan but beyond michigan borders. >> one of the things i've watched the labor movement do over the last basically four or five years is a lot of the focus was on getting barack obama or a democrat elected president and also getting representatives and senators elected to washington. i think they took their eye off the ball to some extent in these local races. well now we see what happens when you don't have the feet on the ground, the money in the local races, you end up with state legislatures that are unfriendly to labor causes. so i think the wake-up call for labor nationally to focus on some of these states. i'm thinking about ohio now. ohio passed and then repealed a limit on collective bargaining for public employees but it doesn't mean that the issue won't come up there again. states like pennsylvania are not right to work states. there are still opportunities for the conservative movement, the antilabor movement, to go in for right to work. i think someone maybe in the labor movement will say, okay, we draw a land in the sand with michigan. we can't let this spr
not just in michigan but beyond michigan borders. >> one of the things i've watched the labor movement do over the last basically four or five years is a lot of the focus was on getting barack obama or a democrat elected president and also getting representatives and senators elected to washington. i think they took their eye off the ball to some extent in these local races. well now we see what happens when you don't have the feet on the ground, the money in the local races, you end up...
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traveled to michigan yesterday. john boehner went on the floor and said i need to see their spending cuts. that's what's going on in the public level. privately staff are working together and the fundamentals remain in place for a deal. don't know if it's before or after christmas or before new years or just after it, but i believe will happen. >> all the vacations are planned, right? >> we've reached one of the weirdest days because speaker boehner came out and said the president has not offered specific spending cuts and the president says we've offered spending cuts and it's gotten to this point of childish points and these guys are saying did not and these guys are saying did, too, and these guys again saying did not. i agree with john. they need to get really close then because then there's a sense of urgency and that's what they feel like they can get the votes to get this done right up to the edge of disaster. >> it's not he said, she said. they have put out spending cuts. >> $600 billion that the president t
traveled to michigan yesterday. john boehner went on the floor and said i need to see their spending cuts. that's what's going on in the public level. privately staff are working together and the fundamentals remain in place for a deal. don't know if it's before or after christmas or before new years or just after it, but i believe will happen. >> all the vacations are planned, right? >> we've reached one of the weirdest days because speaker boehner came out and said the president...
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outside washington in lansing michigan at the state house the michigan house approved the first of the two right to work bills that would weaken the union power in the state. the republican dominated chamber passed a measure dealing with public sector workers 58-51. coming up in about 15 minutes here on c-span2, we will take you to the white house for today's briefing with jay carney, and indications that president obama will be at today's briefing. we will have it live when it starts to read back to the conversation on the fiscal cliff this morning from the washington journal and a look at how the business is might be affected. of >>> let's begin with what iss bi comeess and how does it t: about?t's >> guest: is an organization with a simple mission. our job is trying to make it ist easier for business leaders inon about country that care about policy issues but don't have a washington office or don't havea town spe to speak out on the issuesak of the public policy. >> host: so, is this a brand-new organization? >> guest: even a route for years three and a half supported by some of th
outside washington in lansing michigan at the state house the michigan house approved the first of the two right to work bills that would weaken the union power in the state. the republican dominated chamber passed a measure dealing with public sector workers 58-51. coming up in about 15 minutes here on c-span2, we will take you to the white house for today's briefing with jay carney, and indications that president obama will be at today's briefing. we will have it live when it starts to read...
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alisyn: start this hour in michigan. fox's mike tobin is at the statehouse among proterse still outside. he joins us live. it looks notably quiet this hour, mike. what is happening. >> reporter: an update on the legislation, allison. one of the bills related to public employees is on the way to the governor's desk where the governor says will sign it. another bill related to private sectors employees was approved by the senate but hung up in a bit of procedure called reviseal. looks like that will come back into the chambers again tomorrow. a review, pardon me. as far as what's going on behind me the numbers have dwindled quite a bit. a lot of demonstrators gone across the street to the romney building where the governor's office is. they're banging drums. if you see the white swath on the ground behind us that is the tent operated by the group, americans for prosperity. the conservative organization linked to the coke brothers. an individual named scott was there when it was torn down. >> they rushed our chant. chanting
alisyn: start this hour in michigan. fox's mike tobin is at the statehouse among proterse still outside. he joins us live. it looks notably quiet this hour, mike. what is happening. >> reporter: an update on the legislation, allison. one of the bills related to public employees is on the way to the governor's desk where the governor says will sign it. another bill related to private sectors employees was approved by the senate but hung up in a bit of procedure called reviseal. looks like...
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particularly in michigan. michigan is a a state that was create -- created by labor unions and probably a hire percentage of labor unions in michigan than any other state. we'll be right back with amanda terkel from "huffington post." >> announcer: on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it. >>bill shares his views, now it's your turn. >>i know you're going to want to weigh in on these issues. >>connect with "full court press with bill press" at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it. let's rock and roll. there is so much going on that every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave
particularly in michigan. michigan is a a state that was create -- created by labor unions and probably a hire percentage of labor unions in michigan than any other state. we'll be right back with amanda terkel from "huffington post." >> announcer: on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it. >>bill shares his views, now it's your turn. >>i...
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raymond, cleo, michigan, democratic caller. go ahead. caller: yes, i have a two-part question. i was wondering for one, i'm going to be retiring here in another 12 years, but i'm not going to have social security until probably the age of 70. i'm 50 now. i was wondering, right now if i was to lose my job for some unforeseen reason, i will lose my benefits. i have the option as an employee to keep my benefits at about an $800 cost. but when senators and the congressmen step out of their position, i'm not mistaking, they still have their insurance for life. and in the second part question that i'm posing is, i believe they're going to get a 3% pay raise every year. i've never seen in my lifetime them stop that. i was wondering if that's something that could possibly be done? host: isabel sawhill. guest: i assume what you were talking about, if you lose your job you would lose your benefits, you mean primarily your health care benefits. you're right. you would lose them. under the affordable care act, once it's implemented in 2014, that would enable you to go on an exchange and bu
raymond, cleo, michigan, democratic caller. go ahead. caller: yes, i have a two-part question. i was wondering for one, i'm going to be retiring here in another 12 years, but i'm not going to have social security until probably the age of 70. i'm 50 now. i was wondering, right now if i was to lose my job for some unforeseen reason, i will lose my benefits. i have the option as an employee to keep my benefits at about an $800 cost. but when senators and the congressmen step out of their...
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thousands battling over michigan's right to work. will the governor reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two d
thousands battling over michigan's right to work. will the governor reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp...
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here's what the president said yesterday in michigan. [video clip] >> these right to work law don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. [cheers and applause] you only have to look to michigan, where workers were instrumental in reviving the auto industry and to see how unions have helped to build not just a straw upper-middle-class but a stronger america -- stronger middle-class but a stronger america. people and should be focused on the same pink. they should be working to make sure companies like this manufacturer is able to make more great products. that's what they should be focused on. host: distorts free press, courtesy of the newseum in washington, as this headline -- some schools are closed in the state so teachers can also protests that block today. here is the detroit news. there headline -- michigan pro-union people are protesting this law. the republican-led legislature is expected to take it up today. this legi
here's what the president said yesterday in michigan. [video clip] >> these right to work law don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. [cheers and applause] you only have to look to michigan, where workers were instrumental in reviving the auto industry and to see how unions have helped to build not just a straw upper-middle-class but a stronger america -- stronger...
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michigan, if the second part does pass today, michigan would become and goes to the governor's desk, of course, where he signs. the 24th state in the country have there is right-to-work legislation. what it means is that, if you're looking for work here in the state of m. michigan you would not have to pay fees to a union as a condition to get or keep that job. it means that you're not going to be forced to join a union anymore. obviously, a huge blow, not just to unions here in michigan where unions were born. the united autoworkers union born here in 1935 but it wouldn't be a blow to unions here in michigan. it could undercut the power and influence of unions across the country. >> all right. we'll be getting more from you as this develops. a lot of people who are quite angry about this. this is a controversial issue in state of michigan. we are also watching violence in egypt. mass gunmen opening fire on opposition protesters in cairo's tahrir square rounding several people. crowds are gathering at key spots in the capital including outside the presidential palace. rival rallies t
michigan, if the second part does pass today, michigan would become and goes to the governor's desk, of course, where he signs. the 24th state in the country have there is right-to-work legislation. what it means is that, if you're looking for work here in the state of m. michigan you would not have to pay fees to a union as a condition to get or keep that job. it means that you're not going to be forced to join a union anymore. obviously, a huge blow, not just to unions here in michigan where...
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. >> quick question on the michigan right to debate. there's one democrat who said today that if this right to work initiative is signed into law, quote, there will be blood. since the president weighed in yesterday and obviously made his feelings known, and has talked about changing the tone here in washington and around the country, do you -- does the white house feel any obligation to tell fellow democrats to debate this issue but debate it in a peaceful and -- >> the president believes in, you know, debate that's civil. i haven't seen those comments and i'm not sure that they mean what some would interrupt them to be -- interpret them to be, i just haven't seen them. the president has always opposed so-called right to work laws. as he said, those laws are generally political and not economic. they're more about the right to earn less pay than they are, you know, helpful to our economy. . he presented his views on that issue. ? when we were asking about the chicago teacher's strike before the election, you said it was a local issue a
. >> quick question on the michigan right to debate. there's one democrat who said today that if this right to work initiative is signed into law, quote, there will be blood. since the president weighed in yesterday and obviously made his feelings known, and has talked about changing the tone here in washington and around the country, do you -- does the white house feel any obligation to tell fellow democrats to debate this issue but debate it in a peaceful and -- >> the president...
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host: laura, republican caller from lansing, michigan. caller: yes, all these deductions and cuts and things, i have never seen anything done to ceo pay, which is exorbitant. i think possibly we could recuperates a money if we took a minuscule amount from wall street, a half cent for trade or something. i liked the two person discussion you had yesterday, reminded me of c-span of old. i would like to see legislators get paid for the hours they work, nor for they are there for a couple days and then they are gone and then they go talk to their constituents and they'll come back with a sun tan. so we know their constituents are all in florida. guest: with ceo pay, years ago there was a tax on any salary over $1 million. that was abolished in the george bush era. there is a new say on pay provision in the dodd-frank financial reform law that gives shareholders a little more veto power over the ceo's pay package. there's not much congress can do on that is directly because if the private sector. the tax on stock trades, there's a proposal for
host: laura, republican caller from lansing, michigan. caller: yes, all these deductions and cuts and things, i have never seen anything done to ceo pay, which is exorbitant. i think possibly we could recuperates a money if we took a minuscule amount from wall street, a half cent for trade or something. i liked the two person discussion you had yesterday, reminded me of c-span of old. i would like to see legislators get paid for the hours they work, nor for they are there for a couple days and...